The Jokes by Jo Show - w/ Tyler Rothrock (S06EP04)
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Introduction and Welcoming Guests
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Tyler Rothrock: Fuckin' Get it Right Bro..., 

Josiah: here we 

go. 

All right, 

do 

do it. 

let's do it. 

Tyler Rothrock: Is

Is there anything off limits? 

Josiah: No.

Doug: Nope. Nope 

Welcome 

the Jokes by Joe show.

I am your host, Josiah James, with me, the lovely co host,

Doug McKizzle. 

Boom. 

Josiah: Boom.

And also our very special guest comedian, Tyler 

Rothrock. 

Tyler Rothrock: Hello. Thank you you 

for 

for calling calling me special.. 

Josiah: He's a comedian. He's also awaiting further accomplishments. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, that's very good.

That's 

I'll take that. 

I'll take that that.

implies 

That implies 

that they're coming.

Right, right, right, right. 

and we're not so sure.

It also implies that there were accomplishments. 

Yeah. 

further, further 

imp applies that there was that at least one.

Josiah: Oh dude, that's 

Sapporo Theos good. 


Discussing Japanese Beer and Dining Experiences
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Josiah: You ever have 

Japanese beer? 

Tyler Rothrock: yeah, yeah. yeah. 

Josiah: So good. You go to a Hachi grill.

And then like Ichiban 

or 

[00:01:00] the one on Southside. And then you 

Tyler Rothrock: mean the one on south? there's one right on Northside. You're on north. 

Doug: side. 

Josiah: Yeah, Northside. But on Staking, what's The staking thing? Yeah. Market Street. Oh, it's so expensive. So expensive. 

But 

Doug: But

Tyler Rothrock: you're I 

I mean You just gotta pay it, pay it. Yeah, 

it. you gotta 

Doug: whenever somebody says that, I'm like.

So you're thinking of that over the experience.

Josiah: No, 

that's not what I'm 

saying 

Doug: Forget how expensive it is. 

Josiah: All right. 


Fondue Restaurant Rant
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Josiah: So like you go to, we went to melting pot. it's my family in the melting 

Pot. All right.

Tyler Rothrock: right. I'm gonna, I have, a have opinions about Melting Go

Doug: Me too.. 

Tyler Rothrock: Go 

ahead. 

Josiah: 300. 

it's 

insane. 

Doug: And you cooked it yourself. 

Josiah: Yeah

Tyler Rothrock: I've never 

Melting pot is the worst 

place. 

Josiah: do they get away with that? 

And It's insane. the place was packed. 

Doug: Lauren and

Josiah: right? 

Doug: we went one time, and 

just because,

you 

know, we were gonna have a fancy night out

we go and 

I knew it was fondue, but 

they bring us all the 

Tyler Rothrock: Fon-DONT Yeah, 

well, they, 

Josiah: FON-DONT! 

Doug: They 

They bring 

us all the shit. And we're just, We don't know how long to cook it. We don't 

We don't 

have a thermometer or anything.

It's right threw everything [00:02:00] in.

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah. 

Doug: And we're just like,

this is the, we're never doing this 

ever again.

again. And somebody, 

we said what we'll do is we'll

we'll, we'll

have dinner at home.

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah. 

Doug: And 

then we'll go there for dessert.

Josiah: Yes. The dessert's 

dessert's good. 

Tyler Rothrock: Naomi, my girlfriend, took her like son. 

the kid likes to go there. 

for his birthday Like that's what they did

So 

that's what she did.

I went and they got like literally

Cheese melted cheese and bread and then one of the chocolate things it was 80. 

Oh my god! I, got, Miller Lights. They were, and like they were skunked. The people didn't know what that even meant.

I'm 

like, are you using the beer to cook? the

Doug: just 

Tyler Rothrock: just in the soup. 

Doug: soup.

Josiah: my God. 

Doug: Yeah that place is terrible. 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

don't I never hate. I hate talking shit on places. Yeah, Like I don't like the Yelp culture, but I will talk shit on 

Doug: Yeah, 

that was, 

I've been there once and I can't say that it was like a bad experience with the waiters or anything. It was just the idea of

paying to do your shit.

Yeah. [00:03:00] All you did in the back was chop.

Yeah. Like do they even have ovens?

Josiah: I feel like and

then, and then all the food you know what they won't let you take it home with you 

Doug: Really? 

Josiah: Yeah, 

Doug: What are they going to do if you do?

Josiah: The raw, the raw stuff, they have to take it. 

Doug: Oh, the raw stuff. Yeah

yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, Yeah, yeah. 

Josiah: But 

like I paid for 

it. 

so, 

it's mine.

Doug: No, they'll be liable 

if you 

if you get sick or something 

Josiah: I don't, uh, fuckin whatever 

Tyler Rothrock: What was it, They're not liable if I don't cook it if I just

eat it? 

Josiah: Right. 

Tyler Rothrock: Cook it on the table?.

Doug: No, 

that's, 

that's now, that's that's you. 

Because 

Josiah: What if he under cooks? What if he under cooks it?

Doug: That's on you. Not,

Josiah: it's not like you're signing a waiver. 

Tyler Rothrock: I don't think you get chicken. You can't get 

chicken. 

Doug: no 

there's no

no

chicken. I don't. we didn't it was beef for us. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, you you are wild if you order 

chicken.

from

Melting Pot. 

Doug: I'll have 

pork. 

the pork!. .

Josiah: I 

just got sushi and I was just like, what am I why don't, 

Oh, 

Tyler Rothrock: they had 

that 

that there?. 

Josiah: No, I was just kidding. oh. It's like, why do I need this? 

Doug: Yeah. 

Josiah: I'm just gonna eat it raw. 

Tyler Rothrock: my 

my japanese restaurant like, 

like, 

I go to like a, like a sushi place or whatever, 

like, 

Sappporo, but then you get the, the, 

Saké. 

I like hot sake. Yeah. People gimme a hard time about that.

You're supposed to drink it cold, [00:04:00] but I like hot. sake. 

Josiah: Do they, Will 

they will they, will they serve 

it hot for you? 

Tyler Rothrock: They will.

It comes. Okay. 

But yeah, 

it's like traditionally hot.

I guess the, the better.

so 

so 

the, 

the story I got, they serve it hot because


The better sock is supposed to be cold, But like,

I think when we were in 

the, Our troops were in Japan, the Saki was so bad 

Josiah: that they bombed them. They bombed the shit out of them twice. 

Tyler Rothrock: real 

quick.

uh, You 

have you have 

five minutes to change this or something's 

going to 

happen. 

happen.

Doug: That's all we got? Or 

Tyler Rothrock: no, no, it was so cold that they 

uh, 

Something about the sake. 

Josiah: It was cold until we nuked them and now it's, now 

it's blazingly hot. 

And 

it gives 

you radiation 

poisoning. 

Tyler Rothrock: That's how we commemorate.

like, The 

fucking bomb is like,

Doug: yeah, we 

Tyler Rothrock: make sake

hot.

Doug: That's how it how That's how we ashy. 


Comedy Scene and Heckler Stories
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Josiah: [00:05:00] Yeah Um just to catch you just to catch you up from last episode, Tyler

Doug 

and I settled a score

where

No, no, 

Tyler Rothrock: Those 

are 

the 

best games 

Josiah: dude, I have the fucking tape where you're like, yo, yo, play back the soundbite where I said women aren't funny. 

Doug: You're a child. You're a little kid 

Josiah: Oh, sorry, wrong one. 

Tyler Rothrock: What if that just said the n word a bunch? You're 

like, 

Now we 

we got 

Josiah,

got 

now we got N.

him! 

Doug: Now we got it! 

Yeah. 

Josiah: wait. 

Tyler Rothrock: Oh no. 

Josiah: So he said it, he said it.

So, based on 

that, based on 

that, 

that. 

So I 

wanted to play, um 

Tyler Rothrock: Rarely 

is it the co host tries to cancel you.

Doug: I 

just don't ever, under, it's 

such a big thing 

for him.

I don't give a shit I'm, 

Josiah: you wanna know why. 

Doug: so much work 

into 

it. 

Josiah: Do you know why? Here's why. 

Doug: it's like he built a card house with seven decks of cards and I just came in and was like

Josiah: Will you let me have this Will you Will you let 

Doug: You can have all of it! 

Josiah: Let me have the little [00:06:00] victory. I've been married for four 

Doug: So 

you want me to care about it?

Josiah: I've been married for four No, no, I don't want you to care. I've been married for 14 years. .I'm never right, dude. 

Never. 

Doug: That's 28 

years

to Susie.

Josiah: 28 28 

years?

What

What do you mean? 

Oh, Oh, because it's

as as long?

that

the thing?

I don't know. 

Tyler Rothrock: I did a little math right there. Wait, 

so you've been married for 40 

years? 

Josiah: 14. 

Tyler Rothrock: Oh, 

shit, I said 40 years. 

Josiah: Dude, how 

old do you think I 


Tyler? 

Tyler Rothrock: I was doing math the other way. I was like, 

oh, I thought you had a different wife. 

Josiah: Yo, we came 

came 

up in the comedy scene at the same time. You're like, what are you, 35? 

Tyler Rothrock: 37, 

Josiah: Okay. So I'm I've got 

Tyler Rothrock: people get married I mean,

I don't know where you're from, maybe like Bath or something. 

those people get married young 

Yeah. Yeah. 

Josiah: they do. Like, No, I didn't get married till I 

was 

like, 

Doug: I got some pussy. 

young, I'm marrying that one. Dude,

Josiah: young thirties, 

Tyler Rothrock: married 

Josiah: young thirties. 

Doug: Holy shit. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, 

they were married, bro. Married. Yeah. 

Doug: Like before they graduated??.

Tyler Rothrock: I don't know. 

I think they I 

I don't know. 

[00:07:00] I think I said 

Doug: so you still have to ask your wife if she'll go to prom with you? 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, 

yeah, 

yeah. 

I 

love this setup. 'cause you can't see my double chin as much.

It's hidden.

Josiah: Right. this came across my, I guess it was Reddit, sorry. I thought it was I 

thought it was 

TikTok, but it's not.

So, this, I guess 

she has a heckler, and this 

and 

this 

is how 

she deals with it. ​





It's Not 

Josiah: my 

fault you don't have material.
[00:08:00] 

Okay, so

Doug: done. 

Josiah: So there it 

is.

Doug: How do you follow that 

ha 

ha! ha! Well, 

it's the last show of the night. Right? 

No, but I mean, what is she how do you segue 

Tyler Rothrock: the back into your 

Josiah: material? There's 

so much, 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: would need so much more context. Yeah. Because that is

It is 

Tyler Rothrock: She 

Josiah: was fucking with him. 

yeah. And that's, But that's, not how you handle a heckler. 

No, I know. I mean, the thing is, there's so much other, like,[00:09:00] 

Tyler Rothrock: Did 

Josiah: she, did that did start saying some wild shit? 

Yeah, was he saying stuff before that clip?

And like, 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, 

Josiah: it was just that, clip 

It's like, uh, I think you kind of got I wanted to play the eight minute clip, but I got shot down.

You know what I think 

about this, Doug?

Not playing something so long. 

Doug: That's what I think. That's what I think. 

Tyler Rothrock: that's fine. 

Josiah: He fucking hates me.

Tyler Rothrock: don't 

hate him. 

I just have no emotion about it.

You're co host. He wants

to have you angered. 

Josiah: Is there tension here? 

No. 

no, absolutely not. I wish you would 

just 

kiss me. 

What would it take to get you to kiss 

me? It's like he's shooting, it's like he's shooting at something that's just like, I don't know. 

Doug: Yeah, 

Tyler Rothrock: alright, I'll 

Josiah: listen to 

you for once. 

Fine. Um, Tyler, 

Doug: won't. 

Josiah: Tyler, Doug, and I did a show, was that like 2012?

Um, Jimmy's place. Do you remember the show we did 

there?

Tyler? 

Tyler Rothrock: Uh, yes, yes,

Josiah: Okay. It was 

a long time ago, like 12, 

13 years ago. 

Is that the [00:10:00] place over by that 

Tyler Rothrock: like 

Josiah: shitty hotel? 

Tyler Rothrock: It's a little Irish. 

Josiah: You talking about the 

Tyler Rothrock: the 

Josiah: place in Jersey? 

Oh, I was no, no, no, no. Jimmy's Jimmy's place, The show you produced Jimmy's place. Jimmy's, 

Tyler Rothrock: uh, 

Josiah: Yeah. Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: I thought you did one of those too. I did two of them there. 

That's 

what you're saying. I think we did it 

yeah. 

And gr you, you, produced one and you were on, you, you were on the bill. Okay. Yeah. But Yeah. Wait, 

but I thought there was one like the Knights Inn or something

like, like, Or the, the um, like 

Doug: was 

Josiah: it next to the Knights Inn? Jimmy's place? 

Jimmy's It might be, yeah, yeah. yeah, 

Jimmy's, 

yeah, it was the bar. It was the bar that had the back room and all that. 

Yeah. 

Attached to the MO motel. 

It wasn't attached to a motel, right next to it.

Tyler Rothrock: Okay. Yeah.

Josiah: Yeah, everybody 

got their math. 

Tyler Rothrock: when they Not me, I got it from somewhere 

else. 

Doug: I 

Tyler Rothrock: went to the bathroom. 

Josiah: Yeah, and Greg 

um, your friend, Greg, Greg Solano, Salerno. 

He was on it. Hell Yeah, I ran into him in Vegas. Really? It was funny because I was gonna my wife and I were there for our first anniversary. You just ran into him?

Tyler Rothrock: him? Well, 

Josiah: I'd say that, but 

sort of so, 

uh, I told him, I said, Hey, I'm going to be in Vegas.

[00:11:00] Uh, let's, you know, meet up for a drink or something like that.

Tyler Rothrock: And 

Josiah: my wife and I are going to dinner the day that we're supposed to meet him, like

where 

we told him to come meet us

after dinner.

Tyler Rothrock: And 

Josiah: I'm in a uber

and I'm just kind of like looking out this driver. I'm looking Oh God, his 

Tyler Rothrock: and I turn around

Doug: and 

his 

Josiah: head is this 

Tyler Rothrock: big on 

the 

Josiah: side of a bus.

Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: He's 

Josiah: Cause he works 

Tyler Rothrock: like 

Josiah: on the radio station up there. 

Tyler Rothrock: Oh. 

Josiah: all right.

So they were promoting his show. 

Okay. You want to. You wanted to be the driver 

of the Uber or the driver of the bus? 

Doug: the bus? 

Tyler Rothrock: Either way

would've been cool. or in the back of the bus

just 

Doug: just Doing 

Tyler Rothrock: scratch off lottery tickets. 

Josiah: I'll never forget. I hope, 

Doug: hope 

Josiah: he doesn't get mad at me for telling the story,

Tyler Rothrock: but 

Josiah: we did, like when I first started to stand up

the wildflower cafe.

do you guys remember what that is?

It's in South side Bethlehem and 

Does it still exist? 

No, it's,

I don't even know. I think the building got towards.

Okay. it's now like, 

Tyler Rothrock: where 

Josiah: that Z craft places, but it used to be,

Tyler Rothrock: it 

Josiah: was, 

like the shitty 

Tyler Rothrock: cafe

Josiah: Yeah, and EJ [00:12:00] non stop ran a show and it was like, maybe it was, or Don DeMarco.

Remember Don

DeMarco Yeah, 

And it was like all, like,

Tyler Rothrock: like 

Josiah: all black people in the lineup and Salerno.

Was 

first 

after the host 

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: like couldn't have bombed harder

Like couldn't 

do

Tyler Rothrock: and he, 

Josiah: you had to follow him. I had to follow 

him.

I 

was next but 

Tyler Rothrock: he, and 

Josiah: he bombed so bad 

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: like those like crowds.

Doug: Yeah, 

Josiah: they're so 

fun

Tyler Rothrock: Either 

Josiah: way. right? so if you're bombing they're gonna they're having

fun about it, right and they got in on they were like

Tyler Rothrock: Like

Josiah: let him know he's bombing, you know

Tyler Rothrock: And 

Josiah: they basically, like, hooked them off stage, like Apollo them off stage. Oh, no. 

so the Wildflower Cafe, the stage, 

The back, like 

if you're on stage, you're basically, it's kind of like Inkwell, like, where the, the window Yeah, So

the door to leave is right next to the stage.

He

got so mad, he stormed out, right? So he, like, gets off stage. he storms [00:13:00] out of the door. And the door slams and then the crowd's like even

they 

Tyler Rothrock: it 

Josiah: And then 

it's like 

getting like leading class. 

Yeah, They're like, boo, get the 

fuck out!

Tyler Rothrock: fuck 

Josiah: And then the host goes You guys ready for your next white motherfucker?

Doug: That

Josiah: And That was you. 

Tyler Rothrock: That 

was me. 

Yeah 

Josiah: Well, your 

comedy journey, we kind of, all of us sort of came up at the, you started in 2010, I started in 2008. What year did you start? Right around that 

time? 2010? Same, 

same as him.

Okay. And then you were hosting the mic at the Fishbowl. At the Brewer's for a while there, I remember 

that.


Comedy Club Experiences in New York
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Josiah: And then Was it a couple of years later you decided to move to New York City and try and do comedy there, right? yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: Big mistake. How long 

Josiah: were you in the 

city for? 

Well, 

Tyler Rothrock: five 

Josiah: years. 

Tyler Rothrock: total. 

Josiah: I was just not there that much. 

Okay. Did you live there? 

or? Yeah, I lived there. Okay.

But

I would come home all the time.

Alright. I hated it. I hated being there 

Are the mics there like i've done the bringer shows there. ..like the

Broadway comedy club you've done that, uh, gotham where you have to bring [00:14:00] six people and, ..hey, you're a comedian, right? Is that the kind of shows you were doing bringer shows or were you doing open mics or I was doing 

like paid gigs 

or. 

When

I first got there,

I like

There was 

like a booker that knew me so I like kind of lucked into like club spots

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: at this, the worst club in New York City at the time, Um, it was called LOL.

And it was like 

Tyler Rothrock: in some 

Josiah: building on like 

the that's a, franchise. They have one in LA as well. 

Is there? Yeah. Oh, I mean, it can't be the same business. Really? This is, if there was

Tyler Rothrock: Oh

Josiah: oh wait, you know what? You know what I was thinking? money 

laundering. 

This was, a I would think. I'm, 

I'm, thinking of Hahas, I think Ha hahas. Yeah. Yeah.

yeah. 

So 

Tyler Rothrock: these 

Josiah: spots, like they were so shitty, it was all Taurus. And they were barked in crowds, 

Tyler Rothrock: .so 

Josiah: like, 

Doug: peep, peop it 

Josiah: was like in Times Square, so the barkers would be, 

Like the street team would be like,

Jerry Seinfeld, and Jerry Seinfeld's

Tyler Rothrock: coming, 

Josiah: or Ellen DeGeneres. like, 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: would 

say whatever name to get you in the, in the seat. are like, like, 

oh [00:15:00] my god.

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: get to go see Larry the Cable Guy for 9. 

Tyler Rothrock: dollars, 

Josiah: and then they would get there and it would be 

Tyler Rothrock: like 

Josiah: people like 

me.

Tyler Rothrock: And the 

Josiah: I'm not, I'm not laughing at that. I don't want to be Yeah. Yeah. bullshit. Because they were lied to? Yeah, they were lied to, so.

And then 

Tyler Rothrock: the 

Josiah: guy got like that club mover got fired and then I would do a lot of mics and then bar shows.

Tyler Rothrock: And then Every 

Josiah: Every once in a while I'd get like a cool, 

cool 

spot. So for those that are listening that don't know the term Barker, it's the person who stands out and is like Tickets. Tickets, Tickets! Jerry Seinfeld's coming. My first spots were bar. I was bar 

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: So then the comedians. sometimes, oftentimes have to bark.

Right? That's what I did. 

You barked. 

I Barked. And then you have to, And then they have to say who they're there to see, right? 

No, it would be like, it would be like in the West Village. comedy show, Comedy 

show. yeah. So did you 

have to get rid of like 10 tickets 

or No, 

No, I would just bark so

Tyler Rothrock: I would. They would make me, they'd be like, you gotta bark from like 7 to 9, And then at 9 you can come and do your 8 minute spot. Okay. And so I wouldn't get paid for the [00:16:00] show. I would just get to do 8 minutes. Got it.

Doug: Yeah. 

Josiah: And it was

sold out, obviously. No. Not sold out? So the bringer shows that I did that

Doug: Sheba 

Josiah: Mason, you know, Sheba? did you ever do any of her shows?

I think, I've met her.

Okay. yeah, 

Doug: I don't 

Josiah: I know your friends on 

Facebook. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah. I 

Doug: remember. I 

Tyler Rothrock: think 

Josiah: so Doug and I did a lot of her shows. 

'cause I did I did Jenny. 

Oh fuck. I did do a lot. I

ended up telling her, listen, I'm not doing any more bringers. Jessica. 

Tyler Rothrock: tough. Yeah. Kirsten, I Jessica Kirsten. you know her?

Kerrison, Oh dude. Yeah. She's 

Josiah: Yeah. So I did her I did her I did Gotham up in, 

Tyler Rothrock: um, 

Doug: new 

Josiah: talent showcase.

Yeah. Okay.

Sheba Mason was in the audience

Doug: Mm-hmm .and she reached out to me on YouTube, my YouTube channel.

Josiah: And I thought it was spam. She's like, Hey, I want you to do some shows in New York.

My name is Sheba Mason.

I'm Jackie Mason's daughter. You know, she throws, that's the first thing she says to Anyone she 

meets.

Tyler Rothrock: it's like Marcus Jordan the other night.

Josiah: and [00:17:00] I'm 

Doug: I'm 

Josiah: Marcus Jordan, Michael Jordan son. Yeah, so 

Tyler Rothrock: still, 

Josiah: you. 

can't arrest you. 

Tyler Rothrock: 000 

Lambo on the 

Josiah: Yeah, you can't 

arrest me.

Yeah. So I thought I was like, oh, cool.

I got 

noticed 

by by Jackie Mason's daughter.

and

so I'm doing all these shows and she's like, yeah, you got to bring six people.

Doug: And 

Josiah: I 

was like, okay, well I can only do 

that so many times because I only have six fucking people 

that 

that know 

me. That's kind of like the, that that, 

Doug: that 

Josiah: industry is like, there's like a.

Tyler Rothrock: There's like an economy of that. 

Josiah: Yeah, but her clubs, they sell out. So it's a great crowd. They'll, 

they'll, your jokes will hit.

Tyler Rothrock: Um, 

Josiah: the only thing is, you know, it's,

it's 

brutal 23rd club.

Doug: Crust in that pizza shop, whatever street that is. 23rd, I think. 23rd. is it? The original one? 

it ho 

Tyler Rothrock: yeah, it holds like, 

Josiah: I think, 40 something people. And I brought, I think, almost 30. And, Cause it was all my friends from New York.

You should have spread them out. You could have done seven Bringers. Well, 

I didn't know I was going [00:18:00] to be doing any. and 

Doug: at 

Josiah: that 

point, I hadn't even said, I'm not doing any of those. she should have given you credit for 

that. too. so what happened was, the next, Week,

You know, she wanted me to come back 

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: I said I 

Tyler Rothrock: I said, okay But i'm not bringing 30 people with me this time I said I said, you know comedy people aren't coming out every single week 

Doug: come 

Josiah: to come see me. 

and I said, they won't come out every week to see Bill Burr.

I said, 

so, I said, so, so yeah, it's not going to be, don't expect that number.

Tyler Rothrock: And 

she 

Josiah: was like, no, no, no, just bring like five people. I brought like,

I think it was like 15 people shot. Damn. So, uh, I know she's in New York. 

Tyler Rothrock: are my 

Josiah: Right. I 

Tyler Rothrock: downtown. 

Josiah: knew she, Like a few of them left the Yankee game and came down afterwards.

Cause 

Tyler Rothrock: know 

Josiah: I 

knew, um, She 

loved you because you were. You were bringing 

the house. 

Tyler Rothrock: a lot of 

Josiah: then the third time, so after that second 

Tyler Rothrock: show, 

Josiah: she texted me again and was like, um, Hey, I want you to do next week. I said, I'm doing it, but I'm not bringing people. I said, I can't.

Yeah.

Tyler Rothrock: all

Josiah: I've used them all. I 

said, 

Doug: I 

Josiah: said, I brought like 45 [00:19:00] people in the last.

Two weeks. 

I think you're doing all right.

Let the other people bring people and I'll, i'll 

do like, you know, five six Whatever. 

Yeah, plus you're 

not 

paying me. And I 

Tyler Rothrock: and I 

Josiah: was going to new york that weekend Anyway, 

Tyler Rothrock: so 

Josiah: I said i'll be in the city.

So if you she was like, yeah, come down and I came down and she was like I didn't see you brought anybody on the list or something like that. And I was like, yeah, I'm not.

Doug: And then, 

Josiah: but she still let me do time.

at the very end.

There's a mic shut up, the mic's screwed up. Right.

Doug: And 

Josiah: so I just real nicely, like, 

Tyler Rothrock: you 

Josiah: know, I was quiet.

there 

Tyler Rothrock: there

Josiah: were some other comedians that I grew up watching that were there that night, just kind of. gonna do a show that night. It was like a Friday night or something like that.

And so I was kind of like intimidated. So I just kind of walked up to her and I was like, Hey, be careful with the mic because the cord is a little loose.

And she was like, she was like, no, you're just saying that because your set didn't go that strong. I said, all right,

that's all I said. I just said, all right.

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: went outside, and had a smoke. She was on stage next. She's doing the same exact word for word bit.

That she [00:20:00] always does. Exactly the same

Yep. and the fucking mic went out on her

and 

I just went you just heard from the back I go, 

Tyler Rothrock: huh?

Josiah: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Oh shit. 

Doug: again. Never talked to 

Josiah: What's 

funny about 

That was 

last time you, you, did any, 

Tyler Rothrock: I was like 

Josiah: yeah, 

Tyler Rothrock: was like 

Josiah: I did 

like, I don't know what am I being disrespected for? right. right. I did have 

about half, half a dozen. I did about half a dozen shows of hers and 

Like the third or fourth, 

the, the, the comedians waiting in the wings

when 

she was on stage doing her five, eight minutes, whatever she was doing, warming up the crowd,

And they were

mouthing, lip syncing 

her, 

her 

bits. I've, 

I've, I've done that. Right? Cause she, 

she always, she always, 

does the violin thing with the, with the, 

Tyler Rothrock: her do 

Josiah: with the Asian 

girl. Oh, you, you're probably. 

Tyler Rothrock: don't 

remember, her, 

Josiah: I don't remember her saying it at all, but I just remember it being exactly, which I was like,

Doug: I 

Josiah: understand that in New York, if you're doing five mics a night. 

Tyler Rothrock: You 

Josiah: gotta, I mean, you gotta just kind of get the action down.

You can do that in New York because it's a new [00:21:00] crowd 

every time, Right. 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: just feel like 

it's 

cheating. 

you can do five mics a night 

Yeah, I think it's cheating, but I don't like doing that. But every, she would pick on the Asian girl and she'd be like, I bet you're really good at violin.

That was her go to. 

Tyler Rothrock: I don't I don't even get that

joke. 

Josiah: It's a racist joke because Asian people 

Tyler Rothrock: are good at stuff. 

Josiah: They're good at the violin. 

Doug: Are Is that a 

Josiah: It's a thing Yeah. It's a thing. Yeah. Yeah, it is.

Tyler Rothrock: thing. thing. 

Doug: Yeah. 

Josiah: Like math, 

violin. shit like that. Did the joke work 

Tyler Rothrock: when you said it? 

Josiah: Yeah, People left. Yeah.

But the guy in the 

wing was, was, was, was mouthing it. And I feel like a good person 

Doug: I 

Tyler Rothrock: a Nazareth 

Josiah: born white guy 

Tyler Rothrock: I didn't know . that. 

Doug: There's 

Tyler Rothrock: not too many Asians 

Doug: in that 

Josiah: No, but you would think 

Doug: All 

Josiah: So 

back to, um, so like, so 

Tyler, 

so like the clubs in New York, like a comedy seller, you ever get to do that once. All right. And that's because you have to get invited right? By someone who, Okay. Was 

it, Was it Chris Freed?[00:22:00] 

Did he get you? No, no, 

It was a Purdue show, and it was only

it was in the Fat Black Pussycat.

It was the, um, ​

and uh, I got booked on 

that. It 

was fun, but the thing is, like, I,

I'm so mentally not, I'm so fucked up, like, where I, I, dude, I, I, 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: was just thinking about this the other day, like, I've had some cool things happen to me in stand up, and I've enjoyed none of it, 

Tyler Rothrock: just just because in the moment, I'm so nervous,

Josiah: Like, 

You get nervous on stage still? Yeah, Really? well, 

I just get psyched out. Yeah. in 

like, 

Tyler Rothrock: I'm 

Josiah: inside your own head or?

Yeah. because I'm like, Oh, my God, I'm at the cellar, This is like where it all 

happens. 

Yeah. I 

can't believe I'm doing this. I've always this was like one of my goals

and then like

Tyler Rothrock: you 

Josiah: know, 

Tyler Rothrock: I'm 

Josiah: following Sam J who's like

Tyler Rothrock: kind 

Josiah: of famous.

There's all these, I'm the only one on the show that's not famous.

Doug: Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: So 

Josiah: [00:23:00] I'm like, fuck it. Do I even like belong here? And then,

Tyler Rothrock: so, 

Josiah: you know, and it, 

Tyler Rothrock: the, 

Josiah: lack of confidence will come, like the crowd can feel that.

yeah, And then, uh, 

So how the, how the set go? It was fine. I started not great because I was rushing.

Tyler Rothrock: And 

Josiah: then once I settled in, it was fine. But like,

they clearly could tell I was.

Doug: Not comfortable, 

Josiah: you know, I mean like

Doug: the crowd 

Josiah: s but that could, that could have also been, that could have also been part of your act 'cause I was just watching 

this. No, there's a different thing 

though. Yeah, 

Like, there's a thing, there's a different thing about when somebody's 

like 

Like, 

part of their like, like persona is that, but then there's, but there's something like almost an intangible thing that you can sense about the 

conference. It's like they know normally you're comfortable and this time you're not. Yeah. they know something about it

Tyler Rothrock: Like they, Yeah. 

Doug: they, 

Tyler Rothrock: And 

Josiah: it's not like the crowd is just like, like,

Tyler Rothrock: there's, 

Josiah: you you can tell. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah. 

Josiah: Like when you see somebody, you're like, Oh, that, 

Tyler Rothrock: guy, 

Josiah: that person's nervous. 

Tyler Rothrock: now. 

Josiah: And I think that's what it was.

[00:24:00] And 

you know, because like,

Doug: and 

Josiah: I've done this

in almost every one of these like

cool things, like these, like

Like 

Tyler Rothrock: bigger 

Josiah: moments where I'm like, this could be, you know, somebody might watch me and I might be.

Off to the races. And then I just, 

Tyler Rothrock: or 

Josiah: it's, it's, it's going to go so bad. It's 

Tyler Rothrock: over. Right. 

Josiah: Cause reality is neither one will happen.

The next step from the seller is getting booked on a tonight's

late 

show or 

something. 

Yeah. And then like the, when 

I was 

in New York, it was in a, like you have, I used to have this mental block with Philly and New York

Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: where like 

Josiah: you go and you do a show that You're like, oh the crowd is more savvy and like,

Doug: the, 

Josiah: you know, things have to be way more funny for shit to work. It's not true.

Tyler Rothrock: They're 

Josiah: just people in the room Okay, you psych yourself out and then they become like I got 

Tyler Rothrock: people 

Josiah: like I gotta be more the city not 

Tyler Rothrock: same, 

shit like 

Josiah: I gotta be more highbrow 

okay. 


Performing at Helium Comedy Club
---

Josiah: [00:25:00] so and because you played so going to Philly since you brought it up.

You've played punch lines a 

lot. as well 

Tyler Rothrock: and helium I used to be so scared of helium

and now it's like, you know, and I've done it so many times that.

Josiah: I'm so comf I'm like extra comfortable there. 

I did uh, 

I've 

never 

done helium. I did helium through a weird way a high school friend of mine

from new 

york Had a friend in philly who was doing a benefit

like charity thing 

at helium. and she said

Doug: I'm 

Josiah: Who wants another one? Do you want to do a show? I'll take another one. 

Yeah, sure. 

Tyler Rothrock: So I 

Josiah: I get down there and this was when doogie horner had just done america's got talent

Tyler Rothrock: yeah. 

Josiah: is 

that? yeah, America's Got Talent?

And and I I fuckin loved him. I 

Doug: like, 

Tyler Rothrock: was 

Josiah: was like this guy is fuckin hilarious, right? Yeah, he's the best. And so I walk in and I didn't know who was on the show or anything I walk in and there's Doogie Horner 

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: you know that green room's kinda small. Yeah. 

So i'm sitting there He's sitting on the couch. 

Tyler Rothrock: Well, 

Doug: I just I introduced myself. I was like, oh my god I was like nice to meet you. You know, this is 

Tyler Rothrock: you know, 

Doug: I [00:26:00] I watched you on America's Got Talent I thought you did like, I, I I, can't believe you made it that far with 

Josiah: the way they were 

cutting You know just a little bullshit

but 

I 

think his name is David James.

Yeah. yeah. So it was him and 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: I 

don't think it was Pat Barker. It was somebody else, but

Doug: know. they 

Josiah: were regulars at the club 

So 

they all knew each other 

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: I was this outsider who had only worked with 

Tyler Rothrock: one 

Josiah: of the other guys like two weeks ago Yeah. something like that

Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: Well 

Josiah: Doogie was sitting on the couch with his notes

and there's a little fridge there 

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: I took some, taking some water out or something like that and

Doug: Then 

Josiah: they start talking about what they're going to do on the show.

Like, what are you going to do? 

Tyler Rothrock: then 

Josiah: David James said to Doogie, he's like,

Tyler Rothrock: he's 

Josiah: like, 

Do we can, he can 

make fun of that

ice water right there 

and 

and make that a 10 minute bit. 

And he goes, 

he goes, Well, I mean, look at it,

The ice is like teenagers. Like I think it's so above the water, but he doesn't know that's where it came from.

that's what eventually it's going to be [00:27:00] I mean, just going off like that. 

Doug: And 

Tyler Rothrock: And then 

Josiah: and then he goes, he 

Tyler Rothrock: goes,

Josiah: so I'm already laughing. We're all laughing. And and then 

it goes

Doug: to 

Josiah: where he goes,

Tyler Rothrock: I don't know, maybe 

Josiah: I'll just do some black white jokes. Like 

Doug: white 

Josiah: zombies are like,

black zombies are like, 

Tyler Rothrock: eww. 

Doug: and 

Tyler Rothrock: that 

telling you, I

couldn't 

stop

laughing. It 

was like awkward

where they had stopped

laughing and 

Doug: we're 

Tyler Rothrock: we're in this little green room, 

Doug: no no music or anything. 

Josiah: The crowd isn't even in the, 

Tyler Rothrock: like 

they're they're not even in. 

Josiah: So it's, dead quiet Let's just, hit, hit you 

differently. 

Tyler Rothrock: hearing me, like, 

Doug: two 

Tyler Rothrock: two minutes later 

going, 

Josiah: I had to, like, text my wife. Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: can't stop laughing, 

Josiah: Like, I have to go to the bathroom right now.

I love shit like that. 

Doug: That 

Josiah: that 

joke just hit me so fucking hard. 

And then you think about it days later and it still 

makes you laugh too. It's still one of the

Yeah. and he never, 

Tyler Rothrock: I mean, 

Josiah: I've never seen him do that. But 

it was 

just on the spot. White zombies are like

Doug: black 

Josiah: and you can picture his face and everything. 

Dude, I was 

Doug: crying

Josiah: I couldn't like uncontrollably, just [00:28:00] like sitting there like,

that's 

really funny.

Very, very funny, 

Tyler Rothrock: But 

that 

Josiah: but that was helium. And I remember,

Doug: I 

Josiah: remember being scared that holy cow, I'm doing a huge club in Philly, which I've 

never done.

Tyler Rothrock: And 

Josiah: then I walked out

and I remember 

Doug: not 

Josiah: being scared because I could only see the front row.

So I was like, all right, I'll just go off of the waves.

Doug: I

Josiah: think it was a, 

it 

was a children's diabetes research charity.

And 

that was the first thing I, some guy was in the lobby talking about everything he ate.

He's like, Oh, I had a, I had this great baked potato with bacon on it. And I had to, it was all this stuff. and I was like, Hey, there was a guy here. And he was like, Oh, that was me. 

Tyler Rothrock: And I was 

Doug: was 

Tyler Rothrock: like, 

Josiah: was that good? And then 


Confrontation and Identity Crisis
---

Josiah: you came to a diabetic 

charity.

Tyler Rothrock: Perfect. 

Josiah: But that 

Tyler Rothrock: that 

Josiah: got me my opener that I've never, I mean, I had them the whole time, And I remember being scared that I, I guess this is the thing. In a big city, I'm not so much scared of the city, or the [00:29:00] club, or the audience, it's 

Doug: I

Josiah: comedians. I 

guess that's 

that's what it is, too.

Yeah. Yeah. you're like, cause I'm 

like oh, in like intimidated, this person's watching me.

Yeah. You know, they're in the same room, like l like, Louie drops 

by Yeah, yeah. You know, and 

you're like, fuck.

Tyler Rothrock: You 

Josiah: know, there's a lot of people that, you know, Louie just caught

Tyler Rothrock: three 

Josiah: minutes of and changed their life. 

And there's nothing more than

Tyler Rothrock: there's 

Josiah: nothing.

A comedian wants more is to be funny amongst the other 

comedian. Yeah. Oh, right, 

Tyler Rothrock: Or, 

Josiah: And there's nothing they want. Like I, I want less

Tyler Rothrock: than 

Josiah: like eating shit and having these people be 

like, Oh yeah.

Doug: You 

Josiah: know? Yeah. 

You know, 

Doug: You know, 

Josiah: because like when I was living in New York, it didn't matter to me as much 'cause I was there. .I was part of the scene.

But like now I like I'm back here. 

Tyler Rothrock: So 

Josiah: like I'm very insecure about people being like, 

Tyler Rothrock: he didn't, he, he, got soft or he, 

you 

Josiah: know, he got, 

you know, whatever. 

So anyway, I can tell you, I, I, know. I never thought that. I think you're, I think you're fucking solid every time I watch your sets. 

[00:30:00] Yeah. Even, 

when the joke doesn't go over, you recover 

Tyler Rothrock: better 

Josiah: than most people 

I've ever seen. 

You learn how to recover.

when you you, 

Tyler Rothrock: bomb So often. 

Josiah: that's read pretty bad jokes that I just know That's a good, that's a good segue. I'm wanna pull up,

I, I just watched one of your things 

the other night,

Tyler Rothrock: No,

Josiah: no, no, no. Um, it's probably a

bomb. Uh, it was bomb. Shopping 

with Shopping 

with Nana. 

Tyler Rothrock: Oh 

Josiah: So here's Tyler Rothrock, 

Tyler Rothrock: uh, 

Josiah: Shopping with 

the Nana.


Tyler Rothrock: Look 

Josiah: at the comment there by pegleg Wally.

What are your long term goals?

Doug: [00:31:00] this just Is this just a hobby? a hobby? 

Tyler Rothrock: Is this just a hobby? 

Josiah: Or are you going to try to do something big? if 

somebody's asking if

this is a hobby, you're not that good at

this thing. Also, are you going to try and do something big?

what if in your mind, this was like big? 

In your 

long term goals? Are you going to try to get like good at this? So 

whose living room was 

this?

this? 

is a 

don't tell. This is a Scranton. Don't tell. 

Tyler Rothrock: Okay. Yeah. I wanna do that show. I to Kate about it 

The storm door you get to. 

Josiah: Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's 

Tyler Rothrock: funny.

Josiah: the 

Tyler Rothrock: the true part of it. That's the thing that actually happened. 

in real life. 


Josiah: Yeah.

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, 

Josiah: that's good.

That's great. How, much do you hate watching yourself? 

a lot. 

I hate it too. I hate it too. But [00:32:00] it's 

necessary. I I don't mind, 

Doug: like 

Josiah: I'm, okay listening to myself 

now. 

to like 

punch shit up, but somebody said I heard somebody say something over the pandemic that like

Tyler Rothrock: made 

Josiah: me like just Confront


Social Media and Viral Content
---

Josiah: like listening to this ad. They're like, Yeah, because I, record every set. 

Doug: Yeah. 

Josiah: with the intention of I'll go back and I'll like

Tyler Rothrock: do 

Josiah: Do you record the order? Oh, I'll learn. I try to do video just now for like this 

Tyler Rothrock: but 

Josiah: Oh, oh, did you just say this 

was bullshit? 

Oh, fuck you, Tyler. 

Tyler Rothrock: social media, I hate it so much.

Josiah: Oh, I thought you're talking about the show, Nevermind. We're cool. 

Tyler Rothrock: No, like 

Josiah: posting bullshit. 

yeah, yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: But, 

Josiah: it gets monotonous. It sucks, and it's like, dude,

you're, I don't know, whatever. But

And then you feel like invalidated because like that was fucking 

funny Why 

Tyler Rothrock: something today and 

Josiah: why didn't more people like it, you 

know Yeah. You know how many you know how many times 

I've posted something.

I'm like this is gonna be 

the one that 

[00:33:00] goes viral 

Yeah. 

You know what? You know, it did go viral. You don't that's the thing like that's

Somebody told me they're like it's gambling. It's like you just you every day you post something 

Tyler Rothrock: You 

Josiah: don't know what 

Tyler Rothrock: in 

Josiah: yeah I haven't figured out the algorithm 

Tyler Rothrock: on tiktok 

Josiah: Yeah, you've been doing these videos from your car. I real, I noticed, Yeah, but I did a set of about volunteer firefighters

Tyler Rothrock: like,

Josiah: from a standpoint 'cause of the fires. Y Yeah, 

maybe. It's good, 

Tyler Rothrock: that's 

Josiah: it's topical. I I like. that bit. But dude, all these people are arguing in the comment. That's what makes it go.

viral. Oh yeah. It is. it's nothing to do what, It's gotta be controversial or, Yeah, 

Okay. it's, 

Yeah, it's the likes and and the comments are definitely the the key to getting the algorithm to post your stuff

Doug: on 

Josiah: other people's pages that you don't know Got it. the pit is essentially like, you know, how don't we have money to pay for

firefighters? Like,

and so I got like 

Tyler Rothrock: a 

Josiah: hundred followers from volunteer firefighters.

And like Republican, like 

it's, like if you guys 

and so then they, they, follow me. They're like, we love this guy's, 

Tyler Rothrock: you 

Josiah: know, he's talking what we look and then they'll see the rest [00:34:00] of my videos and then they just get called gay.

Tyler Rothrock: It's like, 

Josiah: I 

didn't ask you to be, I

Tyler Rothrock: ask

Josiah: didn't ask you to come here 

Tyler Rothrock: You 

Josiah: came, 

Tyler Rothrock: followed 

Josiah: me. and now you're mad at me. Cause I'm not who you thought I was. Yeah. You're a 

fire man. You're 

a fireman.

You don't get 

paid. 

Tyler Rothrock: I voluntarily 

Doug: am 

Josiah: not gay. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, 

Josiah: yeah, yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha! Dude, 

Tyler Rothrock: like, 

Josiah: that's the thing, like, fucking, these, like, the, the, 

the, 

Doug: like, Like the,

Tyler Rothrock: social media, the 

comments. 


Struggles with Social Media and YouTube
---

Josiah: It's the trying to figure out how can your shit become part of the main algorithm and that I 

just, I'm just, I'm just,

not, 

Doug: me, 

Josiah: yeah,

It makes me so tired 

You want to 

hear something very depressing?

Tyler Rothrock: I've 

Josiah: been making videos for over 20 

years on YouTube. 

I have, I have. I have 

just over 100 followers, and I've had a YouTube account for over 10 years. That 

means, I have

amassed 

Less than 10 followers a 

year, right? If you're listening to this, please follow JokesByJoe on [00:35:00] YouTube.

That's JokesByJoe without an E.

Anyway, so

I haven't,

Doug: I, 

Josiah: I'm like, alright, well, maybe I should just quit because obviously I can't figure out the formula. 

Tyler Rothrock: should. 

Josiah: I'm not funny. 

Tyler Rothrock: Right? 

Josiah: Like, but something inside of me is like, no, no, no. keep going, Keep going. 

Tyler Rothrock: with it? 

Doug: it? 

Josiah: I love it. 

Tyler Rothrock: fuck it. 

Josiah: That's why I'm doing this. 


Podcasting and Reaction Videos
---

Josiah: We just, We just got like this all video thing for this podcast. And this is so much fun. 

Doug: Yeah, 

I, I 

Josiah: because now, 

Tyler Rothrock: a guest.

Doug: is 

Josiah: yeah. and now we can do

reaction videos.

So, 

Doug: Who was here Monday? Sam Grim. He's like, have you seen this key and peel 

Josiah: sketch? 

And we watched it. And 

then I can do, I can do this view where it's like the three of us watching the thing.

and 

Tyler Rothrock: dude, 

this 

Josiah: these 

Tyler Rothrock: like, oh dude, 

Doug: like, 

Tyler Rothrock: They're like, they're the best.

Doug: Yeah. 

Josiah: fucking hilarious was, it was the one where it so good the guy

Was burnt and in a wheelchair and wanted to the comedian

Doug: to 

Josiah: make fun of 

him. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah. 

Josiah: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. fun of me. 

Tyler Rothrock: So, 

Josiah: [00:36:00] Doug, I want to do I wanna do an episode 

where we 

come prepared with Like our 

favorite, our clips, 

our favorite clips, and we 

just watch 'em. I think that would be cool. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, 

Josiah: absolutely. 

Yeah. No, 


Finding Authenticity in Comedy
---

Josiah: but I think the the quicker you find out 

Tyler Rothrock: just 

Josiah: what you

What just, you have fun doing. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah. 

Josiah: that's when

You 

just, number one, have fun. And number two, you pro you start to 

Tyler Rothrock: get 

Josiah: really good.

Tyler Rothrock: And because I still haven't even found I'm not there. I'm not like 

Josiah: I still haven't even found like my style.

I 

don't think, you know I, I stress over that all the time. 

Doug: But 

Josiah: I'm like, I see that's the thing is 

Tyler Rothrock: why do 

Josiah: do you need a style just be yourself? I, but 

that's what we're talking about Yeah. like because i'm not myself on stage

You're not yourself?

Tyler Rothrock: hmm. 

Josiah: I guess I don't really know and 

that's maybe maybe that's the difference everyone 

is saying you have to be authentic, right? 

Tyler Rothrock: So 

Josiah: you have to be vulnerable 

authentic. 

Tyler Rothrock: Like i'm 

Josiah: going back to Chris D'Elia again because He's posting all these crowd work stuff. The rapist, The rapist, Chris D'Elia? Yes, but That was last 

year. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, 

Josiah: that's 

fine, He's fine. He's old, dude. Yeah, 

Yeah, 

Doug: yeah.

Um, 

Josiah: he is, [00:37:00] his crowd work is so fucking good. And I'll sit and watch it and just be amazed. I saw him at Wind Creek.

And he fucking blew the roof off the place. 

Tyler Rothrock: he does. 

Josiah: No, but I think it's more like his,

Tyler Rothrock: I 

I think it takes a while for you to find, like, some people call it 

Josiah: people call it your voice. Exactly. Yeah. 

There'll be times where when I'm like the most comfortable and having the most fun,

Tyler Rothrock: it's 

Josiah: there's sometimes where I don't like that.

I don't like that version of me. I think that's probably the closest 

Tyler Rothrock: to my authentic self on stage. And you 

Josiah: don't like 

it? I don't

because some, because I'm like, I want to sound like this, 

but all right. 

And then I'll 

and then I'll sound 

I'll, cause I'll hear. the. 

Tyler Rothrock: Somebody else. I'm like, 

Josiah: like, I want to be, I want to be more of a, that type of comedian.

Tyler Rothrock: I want to

Josiah: I want to be more, a smarter comedian. I want to be more of this,

Doug: But that's not 

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: then it's not. So 

I'm the same 

way, I was like, I want to be more like Chris D'Elia. Cause crowd work is fucking amazing. 

Doug: but you can't shoot for the, you can't 

Josiah: You don't have to rate part. Right. it's 

Tyler Rothrock: it's, It's 

Josiah: about 

like, 

Tyler Rothrock: [00:38:00] like

I I 

Josiah: don't know how to say it.

Cause I've been talking a lot. 


Challenges of Stand-Up Comedy
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Josiah: I did a podcast in Pittsburgh and we kind of talked about the same thing

where like,

I overstress about it. Like Paul Spratt's my good 

friend,

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: he's seen me,

Tyler Rothrock: We 

Josiah: go on the road together. Chris Freed, we go on the road together.

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: Sean Preston, we go on the road together. Like these people have seen me do more sets.

Like Paul's probably seen me do 80 percent of my

comedy, you know

Tyler Rothrock: So 

Josiah: he knows me better than anybody. He's like, dude You are being yourself. 

Doug: Yeah, 

Josiah: but 

Tyler Rothrock: my 

Josiah: you're just, you're being too critical, right? 

Cause right. if in my head, I'm not 

right. The reality doesn't matter right if I'm like, 

well, that is your reality 

Yeah 

I know. Yeah, 

but like

if, if if I'm 

Tyler Rothrock: in 

Josiah: my head, like I'm not being

Tyler Rothrock: Who, 

Josiah: Like if I if I ever said if I if I do

I'll 

do like 40 minutes. I'll come off and I'll be like, I just wasn't myself. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, 

Josiah: And he's like 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, 

Josiah: you were. 

Tyler Rothrock: like, 

Josiah: But if I don't think I was,

Tyler Rothrock: yeah. It's 

Josiah: irrelevant. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, it doesn't matter. And it, Nobody can convince you yourself. Yeah.

Josiah: Yeah, It's 

tough 

to not get inside your 

head 

when you're 

Tyler Rothrock: Like, 

Josiah: I was [00:39:00] doing, 

country club Comedy.

Doug: on January 3rd. And

Josiah: I was 

telling like, 

just some fucking jokes and I started, I started, listening to myself and I was like,

why 

am I just doing all this stupid fucking wordplay? I fucking 

hate it. Yeah, I know.

That's 

what I'm saying. 

Tyler Rothrock: play.

Josiah: It's too punny. Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah. But if you like that, 

but that's all I like. 

know. you don't like 

it? this is what I'm saying. I like it, but I think it's But what, is It.

Okay. why, why are you I just think it's corny. It's fucking 

corny. It's, it's, this is the kind of laugh you get. You get, ba dum tsh. That's the fucking laugh. 

Tyler Rothrock: say. if, if

Josiah: In my case, I'm not saying everybody should do this, but in my case,

Tyler Rothrock: if 

Josiah: I can write a joke that I think somebody else can write, I throw it I throw it away. 

Okay. I write jokes that only I can 

Tyler Rothrock: write, 

Josiah: that are only something that 

Tyler Rothrock: See, 

Josiah: I would get away with 

with the, the thing 

I'll And Doug, you do less standup 

Tyler Rothrock: like 

Josiah: by a ton than me. Oh, absolutely.

But the thing 

Tyler Rothrock: I've 

Josiah: always thought about you is you are [00:40:00] like 

Tyler Rothrock: your 

Josiah: very much authentic self. 

Oh, he is. 

Tyler Rothrock: And 

Josiah: I think it might even be because of the you don't do a ton of 

stuff. Oh, yeah, i'm not in my I don't have the chance of getting in my head Exactly. I think, and my problem is I know I do too much 

Like, I love mics.

I love going to these shitty mics I love

Tinkering with ideas. I write like, 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: think you should always write, but I I'm always doing new shit. I 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: don't have, like, 

Tyler Rothrock: if 

Josiah: you put a gun to my head

I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to film

like a 

Tyler Rothrock: quote 

Josiah: unquote special. 

Were you going to, were you pulling a gun out 

Doug: the gun

Tyler Rothrock: he

Josiah: Okay. I mean, I,

Doug: I 

Josiah: I can pull one out. 

if you want me to. No, I'm just 

kidding. I'm filming like a, 

Tyler Rothrock: not, 

Josiah: it's not, if nobody's asking for it, it's not a special but I'm recording 40 minutes to put out

and I'm like.

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: wouldn't know how to start this. 

Tyler Rothrock: Like 

Josiah: the stress I'm feeling about it

is so intense, but like

I'm gonna do it at Godfrey Daniels. 

Tyler Rothrock: Okay.

Josiah: And 

when is this? uh, June 28th 

June 28th. alright. Yeah. Is that a Saturday? 

Doug: [00:41:00] Mm-hmm . 

Josiah: mm hmm.

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: I didn't want to do it because I did an album in Bethlehem. I didn't want to do, I don't want to do everything in Bethlehem. because it's like, Oh, this guy's just a.

he's 

Doug: a a 

Josiah: Bethlehem 

comedian. 

yeah, 

but you know what?

Doug: know You know what? 

Josiah: It's just like a make a wish type 

thing. 

It's 

your it's your roots, 

right? I know, yeah. So, 

and I can't put people in a room anywhere else. So,

Tyler Rothrock: But 

Josiah: it's like, there are people that like,

they just have this 45 minutes

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: it,

crushes. They've been working on this shit

for years and years and years.

And they'll go to, they'll go to Tally Ho and 

Tyler Rothrock: do a 

Josiah: a bit that they've been like, they'll, they'll work it all a bit, 

Tyler Rothrock: but 

Josiah: I'm

Tyler Rothrock: kind of, 

Josiah: of, you said earlier, I get so self conscious that

Tyler Rothrock: somebody 

Josiah: at the 

Tyler Rothrock: mic, one 

Josiah: of these comics who are from my friends and aren't probably going to judge me, they're gonna be like, fucking, he's been doing that. 

Doug: Yeah. 

Josiah: Right, right?

I said, why does that shit matter to me? 

I was always 

like that. like I feel like 

I would never repeat the same material, even in New York city, where it's a completely different crowd. 

Tyler Rothrock: And 

Josiah: completely different comedians on stage because I felt like it was cheating. 

Tyler Rothrock: And 

Josiah: even with the 

Tyler Rothrock: the, 

Josiah: contest that you and Paul [00:42:00] Spratt 

put on 

the, at the Emmaus theater, thank you for doing that.

Tyler Rothrock: Lehigh Valley's funniest comedian.

I 

Josiah: did not do the same jokes for the second 

round 

because I thought it was cheating. And then the people that advance, they're like doing the same shit that got them through in the first round. 

I'm like, ah, fuck. Who cares about them? What you should have done is tested those jokes out.

Yeah, 

you're right. Yeah, 

I should have. Yeah, because you would have known, okay, that one works, this one doesn't, that one needs to 

Doug: this, 

Josiah: listen. and that would have been new for that 

crowd. Mhm. There's, like,

Like I have so I have probably, like

Tyler Rothrock: mean, I 

Josiah: I don't know the time.

Like, I have so many so much material that's, like,

Tyler Rothrock: half 

Josiah: baked.

Tyler Rothrock: you 

Josiah: know, where, like the idea is there, but like, 

You have the, you have, the joke premise. and you just gotta find the and I I don't finish 

it. And that that's something that my anxiety, like in life 

Tyler Rothrock: is 

Josiah: hurts me to stand up Because 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: I think I think I can think of funny angles on shit,

Tyler Rothrock: but 

Josiah: I have a hard time finishing [00:43:00] anything.

Like, even if it's like a, 

Tyler Rothrock: Like something 

Josiah: Like

Tyler Rothrock: my 

Josiah: girlfriend was like, can you hang these shelves or can you, can you do like,

like I'll do 90 percent of it, but I'm scared to like

Tyler Rothrock: finish 

Josiah: it

Tyler Rothrock: because 

Josiah: if I finish 

it, 

you got to look at your work all day. If it's not, if it's not done. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, But if 

it's 

done and it sucks. 

Yeah, 

Josiah: So there's a thing in, in movie 

editing, cause I make, I make short films and, you're never, you're never 

done

editing a movie. You just 

surrender, 

you

just surrender 

to 

the final, whatever it ends up being. 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

think that's 

Josiah: So some of those ones you should maybe,

you know, See what kind of legs they can get and then 

eventually, yeah, this is good enough and surrender it.

or keep working on it. Yeah, that's a huge part of this where you're like, is you get in there and you're.

You know, The the, the last third of the joke to me is the hardest part.

Absolutely, 

And it's, it's the, it's the part that

it's 

Tyler Rothrock: part that the 

Josiah: most important 

Doug: [00:44:00] part.

Josiah: Because Sometimes you'll 

you'll write something.

Tyler Rothrock: That

Josiah: doesn't need any 

revisions. yeah. I've done that. Or there's like, because the, the, easy part is the observation, right.

Tyler Rothrock: And 

Josiah: that's

not not to everybody. That's what separates us from normal people is the observation. But 

the 

Tyler Rothrock: the 

Josiah: thing that separates 

Tyler Rothrock: us 

Josiah: from like 

Tyler Rothrock: the 

Josiah: successful people is 

Doug: how 

Josiah: to, you know, 

Doug: Finish 

Tyler Rothrock: Like, 

Josiah: Louis 

Doug: observation. 

Tyler Rothrock: start at 

Josiah: at a place

and, you know, I know Louis's has some

has his issues. Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: He'll 

Josiah: like I, I listen to him and he he gets to a place. That's like

like 

Tyler Rothrock: it's 

Josiah: phenomenal

pheno. pheno.

Oh, he's so good. And, But he he he

he. 

he, I 

I, I've been listening to 

Tyler Rothrock: him 

Josiah: talk and people talk about him

Tyler Rothrock: He 

Josiah: writes standup 

Tyler Rothrock: with 

like. a 

sketch mentality. where he finds the game he finds

the game and the idea

Yeah, Well, I mean, 

I guess if you take it from that point of view, it's you're, you're trying, I mean, you're up there trying to paint a picture and you're trying to make [00:45:00] the entire audience

Doug: Be 

in 

like kind of John Malkovich where they're in 

Tyler Rothrock: head, 

Josiah: seeing

Doug: everything 

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: and how it happened

Tyler Rothrock: to 

Josiah: you.

Tyler Rothrock: And, 

and 

Josiah: I loved how how you described yourself as a comedian is, is you're up there and it's what you're saying, 

Tyler, is he's 

Tyler Rothrock: on 

them 

Josiah: Very natural is that you're having a conversation 

with the audience.

Tyler Rothrock: Which 

Josiah: is

that's like your funniest when you're just having 

a conversation like in 

my kitchen 

before the podcast

Tyler Rothrock: he'll 

Josiah: have me fucking rolling on the floor.

I'd be like, dude

save 

Doug: save 

Josiah: it for the podcast, right. This is, this 

is like, 

Tyler Rothrock: about 

gold. away 

from standup. Like,

Yeah, I do a podcast. We, well, it's a little un hiatus right now, but

Like 

the one with Sean Preston and Lou 

Night

Josiah: Ano Moves. Okay. Sean 

was, Sean was the at the Lehigh Valleys, right? 

He's he's no, no, no. he wasn't.

Tyler Rothrock: I think 

He might have done like a spot, but, 

but 

Josiah: like, 

Oh, I I was thinking Eric 

Preston. Eric Preston 

yeah. Okay. It's just,

Like

Tyler Rothrock: I don't know, standup, to me, I think I've done [00:46:00] too much standup and I did it in

shitty 

rooms too much early on,

where 

you, like, you pick up these tricks. 

Yeah. 

About, 

you're

Oh, like you know, how you're like, You can save it.

Josiah: It's like shortcuts.

Yeah, 

Tyler Rothrock: Like you just find a like little because when you're like in a VFW in like Ephrata 

and 

nobody's facing 

the stage, 

Give me

give me

Josiah: me a trick.

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: don't know. Like, well, you just like,

Tyler Rothrock: I don't even 

Josiah: like, Like, 

just, just, yeah. I think like what? I'm trying to think of one. I guess 

picking on

the Asian on yourself. No, you 

just oh, self-deprecating. You 

just go to yourself or you're you're just yeah, I don't know Like, you go to these like tropes that 

yeah Like, It makes you 

the Asian that plays the violin very well. I didn't try not to do anything racist. 

Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: same here. anything racist, it's where I'm making 

Doug: both 

uh 

Races look stupid. 

Yeah. 

Yeah

Tyler Rothrock: like

Doug: and 

Tyler Rothrock: that brings everybody together 

I got this idea that it's kind of racist that I can't figure out because it's 

rick. Oh, let's go. I don't feel comfortable 


Workshopping Jokes and Ideas
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Tyler Rothrock: Let's yeah let's go right into workshopping 

because uh, all right. 

Yeah,

Josiah: if You want to you want to workshop it. [00:47:00] I'd love to workshop 

Yeah, 

let's do it. 

Tyler Rothrock: The idea is that 

like 

I don't, You don't meet your neighbors anymore, 

.you know, I'm like you're in the suburbs now There's a different relationship between the suburb neighbors and like apartment 

neighbors. Absolutely. And when I was in New York

You I never met my neighbor, 

but

like, I, you share a wall.

So the, you, like hear their life. 

Yeah. You live 

really 

close live 

room 

Josiah: you live together separately,

Tyler Rothrock: you 

Doug: know? 

Absolutely. 

Tyler Rothrock: And 

so, your 

very 

much wants to put a face to the info. it's 

gathering 

So, that's, 

and that's where it could get, like, and so I gathered that they were Middle Eastern. 

Like,

you can tell, 

like, when they, you can hear them talk.

or just based on the, music that they're listening to, 

like the

Josiah: or 

Tyler Rothrock: cook, 

Josiah: the, the the smell of curry, that was racist. 

Tyler Rothrock: Exactly. Yeah. So it like, if, if your brain doesn't have the The 

the 

face,

it'll outsource that job to 

to 

your imagination.

Mm-hmm[00:48:00] 

Josiah: And it just does. I like that outsource the job.

Tyler Rothrock: imagination's. never. it it is, it's so racist 

and stereotypical.

Doug: No 

Josiah: That's what you could say, I'm not racist, my imagination is 

Tyler Rothrock: like

no matter how, 

what fucked up thought your imagination thinks. 

Tomorrow 

it will have the job.

It's 

never been like put, on probation

like 

so and it's just like I you'd have to say it. 

I 

just made 

you 

think 

for a

it for a second. So like, 

that's okay. I 

wanted to put a face to it. And so

the 

bit is that the whole family, my, my imagination made them all look like Bin Laden. 

Josiah: Wait, your imagination made them all? Oh, they're all Bin Ladens. Okay. Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: Two twins with 

the body proportions of Osama Bin Laden.

But to me, that's progressive. Because I didn't,

Doug: right. like 

Tyler Rothrock: most of

Doug: most of America. you picked a good one. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, well. 

Doug: You 

picked a powerful one. 

Tyler Rothrock: Can you imagine, like, most of America, they live by four bin Laden, and a young Bin Laden, Yeah. They'd be like, let's go make 

shit. 

Doug: And by the way, just, for the record, [00:49:00] he's bad. I just meant, he 

a 

very popular 

one. Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: that's the

That's the thing. Your brain's like, I'm gonna do this 

thing.

Yeah. it's 

up 

to you. to choose. 

Doug: Your brain wasn't thinking the guy from the halal truck. 

Yeah. no, 

no. 

to, 

Josiah: Ha, 

Tyler Rothrock: goes 

through the

ha. route. you 

know?

when like, 

my neighbors now, like, they fuck. and They're all, 

Doug: they're 

Tyler Rothrock: like, 

I hear them have 

sex. 

Our 

bedrooms, 

Doug: we share our parents 

Josiah: So what do you 

picture when, when they're fucking 


Tyler Rothrock: what's fucked up. Like, I don't know who they are, but I see him.

I've 

made him hot.

Okay. 

Like I didn't have to do that.

I've made him hot.

And I've, I, I've heard 

him.

Josiah: How about her? Is she hot? 

What is 

is 

she 

like? No, you, 

Tyler Rothrock: it's less about her. 

Doug: your 

imagination. It's less about her. least resistance was go, let's, let's break him down first.

Well, because I heard him come. Oh, okay. 

I'm 

Josiah: like, 

heard him come. 

Tyler Rothrock: you're not supposed 

you can't 

know what, what [00:50:00] somebody sounds like when they come. 

Doug: Yeah, Yeah, 

yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: Like,

without knowing what 

they're, that's not in the order. You're supposed to 

Doug: Now, the first first time you heard it, where you're like, 

maybe he's being murdered.

Tyler Rothrock: I 

want to also emphasize that I heard it. I did not listen.

There's 

a big difference between 

hearing

and 

listening. 

Josiah: And eavesdropping, right? 

Tyler Rothrock: between hearing and listening 

is that 

is

Doug: It's 

Tyler Rothrock: it's 

You're forced, right? 

Right.

no

There's no choice. 

Doug: hearing 

is being woken up. 

Listening 

is jerking off 

Right. Here we go Fuck, 

Josiah: and you didn't, you didn't, you didn't come yet and you're like and they're, and they're done you're like wait, wait, wait just just like ten more seconds

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah. Hearing 

Hearing is like, 

you're trying to get ready and you hear them. 

Listening 

is, 

I 

should go to work but 

Laughter

I'm going 

to wait Laughter 

Doug: I really got to pee right 

now 

Laughter 

So 

yeah, I'm

Josiah: that's good.

Tyler Rothrock: to work out.

And so the thing is,

I think [00:51:00] I'm, I think I'm thinking about combining both people where

like, 

see my neighbor come they're Middle Eastern, 

but 

there's two guys. so in my imagination, it's two 

gay Bin Ladens having sex. 

Josiah: I got it. I got it for you. 

Tyler Rothrock: how, 

Can 

you 

be 

be more progressive? 

Josiah: I have the, I have the, button. I have the button. Okay. So you have you have your neighbors, the, Middle Eastern, and you have your neighbors that are fucking. Like you said, your imagination combines them, right? And when he comes, he's this Middle Eastern Kamikaze pilot, Okay. .but 

he's since he's coming.

He's a kamikaze pilot. 

cause 

I'm a stupid fucking wordplay 

comedian, right? Oh, and he's like, oh 

Doug: I like, it. 

Tyler Rothrock: like it. I 

Josiah: I 

Tyler Rothrock: it. 

Josiah: don't know picture him doing going down the stage. stage?

All 

right. 

Tyler Rothrock: to find 

my voice

Josiah: I think 

Doug: Yeah. Yeah. 

Josiah: You can borrow some 

of mine, I don't know 

Doug: of mine. 

Josiah: Now 

Tyler Rothrock: that's 

Josiah: it's funny, me picturing you

doing 

that over there.

Yes, yes, do it, do it. everybody behind stage will be like, What the 

Tyler Rothrock: fuck is

Josiah: is 

Doug: with 

Josiah: That's fucking funny though! The kamikaze comedian, No, one's done that. No, 

Doug: No, [00:52:00] no, I'm saying it would be funny for me to see that. Tyler Yes, yes, absolutely.

that is so not! him. 

Josiah: yeah, Right. What you could say is, you could say, uh, I was on this podcast and this, uh, 

Tyler Rothrock: This 

Josiah: fucking guy thinks I should do this joke, so if you don't like it,

Doug: Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: don't 

Josiah: follow Jokes by 

Joe.

Ha ha ha ha ha! 

Tyler Rothrock: suggest bits 

Josiah: to be like, They'll be like, do you ever talk about

something? You're like, no, it's like,

Tyler Rothrock: You 

you should be like,

So I was talking to this guy at work.

like,

many times have you heard somebody go, outside of this guy at 

Josiah: Right, right, right 

Tyler Rothrock: that to 

Doug: People do that to me all the time and I'm always like, you would have to be standing on stage 

with me 

and 

we would have to drink for eight years so that people understand 

this is who you 

Tyler Rothrock: Also, the whole crowd would have had to work here.

Yeah. Yeah. 

But, 

so anyway, I, I've been trying that, 

I've been trying that and some of the places, I'm not gonna name 

names. Mm-hmm .Some of the places get a little tight butted 

when 

I 

[00:53:00] can imagine. 

Bring up. So 

yeah, 

Josiah: a lot of 

places are like that Oh, oh, oh, oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, I won't, I won't name names 

either. 

name 

names. But, 

Tyler Rothrock: the 

thing that sucks is like, 

where do 

do you go? Like,

Where do you 

Josiah: do you go to 

Tyler Rothrock: fucking

Josiah: right? 

Tally Ho. you can do anything at Tally Ho. 

Tyler Rothrock: I know, 

but then you don't, you don't, it doesn't get any 

better.

Josiah: Right. 

Right. Are you going there tonight? 

by the way? No, I can't. 

Doug: Yeah, You gotta try it out in front of, I mean, 

Tyler Rothrock: got to try 

yeah, try, you gotta bomb. 

Doug: open. mics are comedians mostly. So, but it is 

when 

you you 

go to different open mics, you have different comedians that do those ones and you can get different.

Perspectives 

on

how the 

Tyler Rothrock: You

got to bob with stakes.

There's 

There's got to be high stakes,

to bob. 

Josiah: Right, right, right, Right. 

Tyler Rothrock: But like

these jokes, and I'm not saying this idea is like super like,

edgy, 

But 

for me, it's like kind of like

an, 

like one of the more interesting ideas that I play with and there's some race and there's some

I'm, I'm, 

It's a 

a vulnerable thing where hey, my imagination is from Nazareth.

you 

you know, so I'm not saying it's right 

But

people 

don't 

[00:54:00] let you get there they don't let you fuck up because Yeah, before it gets really funny. It's just going to be Hey, I think my Middle Eastern neighbors are Bin Laden.

Yeah.

Well, I know that's not what's happening, . 

Yeah. But 

but you have to know if you're sitting at the, I'm trying to find it. 

mm-hmm. Right. The joke 

here. Yeah. 

it's not going to be

like 

easy. 

Doug: It's not all the, it's not all the way worked 

Tyler Rothrock: out It's not all the way worked out because 

out because 

you can't work it out. 

In 

conversation with people. I can't just go up to like.

My friend and be like, Hey, uh,

Doug: What

Tyler Rothrock: you What 

Josiah: you do is you go on a podcast

and you workshop 

it. Yeah. and then you and you get 

the 

button. 

Doug: I got Gabe Bin Laden mixed .

Josiah: What, you 

in

workshopping anything, Doug? 

Doug: No, 

no. actually, yesterday just spent a good amount of The time that I was writing was, 

I'm 

roasting Dan Shelley. 

Okay. 

Tyler Rothrock: I'm coming. 

oh, 

Josiah: nice. I want to come. What's the date for that show? 

Do you know it? March 

Tyler Rothrock: 11th. March 11th. 

Josiah: I'm missing this. 

What day of the week is that?

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Doug: I 

believe we talked about it. It's like a Tuesday or 

something 

Okay. Is it at rivals? 

Yes. Rivals. March 

[00:55:00] 11th. 

Tyler Rothrock: Which

Doug: 11th. Who's Joe's last name? 

Joe? Joe, yeah, the guy 

over there. Ferraro. Ferraro. 

Tyler Rothrock: yeah. 

Josiah: Oh, I know him. I know him. Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: forget his 

Josiah: He's from, uh, is he from Jim Thorpe?

No, 

I always see him in Jim Thorpe.

Tyler Rothrock: Easton. 

Josiah: Yeah, March 11th. Yeah, but 

I'm not doing it on here. Yeah, because that'll give him 

the, 

No, I, I, I Most people don't listen to any podcast. 

Tyler Rothrock: That's 

That's the great thing. This is actually just us.

Talking to each 

other about this 

equipment. And then we're gonna go back and watch it to see how gross I 

look right? I've got, can't 

stand, look at this fucking, 

look at I've got how 

Josiah: big my 

head, dude, you know what?

Let's, um, I 

shaved. oh, there's a closeup. There's a closeup. You if you wanna get 

closer. No.

Okay. 

Look at my head.

Look at 

fucking, looks like 

your

hoodie's like attacking you 

Fucking look at my head. thin guy, dude. I got fucking look at. 

Tyler Rothrock: got 

so big and look at my last 

year and a 

half. my fucking head, dude. so 

big Dude it doesn't [00:56:00] stop there's a picture, 

'cause JC Campbell, I think her name is? 

Mm-hmm . Yeah. She'll, she'll be there tomorrow. nice. She 

put out that thing about send pictures for uh, she wants to do a comedy 

calendar.

Doug: right? 

So I sent her the picture of me the first time I was ever on stage.

and we talked about it where I had, it was at brew works and I had my hat like this Yes. Cause you were so nervous. the mic here Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, 

Tyler Rothrock: but 

I I look at that person, and that's 15 years ago, and it's like a third of what I am now.

bro, you have no fucking idea. 

I've, 

like, there's been times.

like. 

Josiah: I got a video, I got a video at

Doug: The the 

Brew works. I'm, sure. 

where where, it was, it was actually the first time I'd not worn a hat.

Because I had done a show the week before with Joe Black. 

Okay. 

And I got like, somehow or another

became 

his opener.

And the first thing he said, I, I walked up to the bar with him after the show and I was like.

Do you 

Do you 

have any advice?

Tyler Rothrock: And 

Doug: And 

he was like, Lose the hat, 

Lose the hat. Yeah.

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah.

Doug: Yeah. He 

said, 

the hat is covering your face. 

And then he 

shadow. And and then he said, 

he he

Josiah: a [00:57:00] shadow mic down. 

Yeah.

Tyler Rothrock: Yep. 

Doug: He said, because your facial expressions are what's gonna bring you. Mm-hmm . And, And so then I went to the brew works that next open mic. 

Didn't wear a hat 

and 

killed. 

I mean, fucking got an applaud break

Yeah at an open mic. 

Nice thing is what I'm getting at is

there's 

about a good uh, it's, it's a, it's whatever time 

you take to do the bit about raping an eagle, a bald eagle.

you 

do that whole joke. because the guy before me sucked.

And 

so you were like, I'm going to bring the crowd back.

And so you went up and did that bit, but that's all in the video.

and,

Tyler Rothrock: Okay. and 

I 

Doug: and 

And, 

I, and so Lauren and I were watching it like a few weeks back. And I was like, I was like, I wonder if it's still on YouTube. And I, And I, and it was,

And 

she was like,

Tyler 

looks like he's 10 years old. Yeah, You look 

like you're in like.

10th grade. 

Tyler Rothrock: I've been not getting headshots Cause I'm like I'm gonna get back in shape. 

it's been 

like 12 years

And then I'll see, 

I'll see sets of me and I'll be Like [00:58:00] when I filmed, I 

was 

in like something,

and 

I was like, damn, this is the fattest I've ever been.

And then now

I'll look back and be like, I wish I was that fat.

Doug: was 

Josiah: is a thief.

Tyler Rothrock: man, I'm 

so fat doing this.

But

but now I'm like, I would kill

to be that guy.

Time is a thief. I've got, 

I've got, one thing that I'm workshopping. I don't I might try it tonight, I don't know. I might just, 

over there? 

Josiah: Yeah, I'm 

going to go over I might just do a crowd work.

Tyler Rothrock: That, mic, though.

Josiah: Yeah, I love it. I just love Nick. 

Tyler Rothrock: the man. Nick's the 

Josiah: Here's, the, Here it is. All right. Let me know what you think of this. 

Tyler Rothrock: So, I 

Josiah: I 

was buying floss the other day, right? And 

on 

the, on the outside of the container, it's like

43. 

43. 7 yards 

of floss. 

I'm like, okay, I don't fucking know what that is, so.

I'll get it. And so, but like, who's. who's 

measuring floss in yards?

Or, Yeah. Like six 

months late? They're coming off 

Tyler Rothrock: off at 

Josiah: at 7.

Doug: Why not make Why why not make it like an 

Josiah: even 

50? why did we make the box bigger?

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah, 

Josiah: exactly. So [00:59:00] like, box, 

can you imagine the guy though? And like, and this is where I don't know, I don't have 

a finisher 

for it, but it's like. The guy in like six months who's, you know, he goes in his cabinet to floss

Tyler Rothrock: and. 

Josiah: he, you know, there's only six inches left and he's like, wait a minute.

Doug: Yeah. yeah, yeah, That 

Josiah: wasn't 43. 7

yards.

Tyler Rothrock: Like 

Josiah: how's anyone gonna fucking know? Just, 

just sell me the fucking floss. 

Tyler Rothrock: Well, 

Josiah: how much floss 

Tyler Rothrock: do 

you use per session? That's pretty That's probably like a 

Josiah: foot. 

Tyler Rothrock: I use, I use, Like 

Josiah: Cause you're supposed to You go around your fingers. You gotta do that again. Go ahead, do that again. There we go. That wasn't on you. the little 

the flossers. yeah, 

yeah, 

Every time I go to the dentist, she's like, 

Tyler Rothrock: Have

Josiah: Have you 

been flossing? I'm like, no. 

Tyler Rothrock: You're 

Josiah: were in there, 

Tyler Rothrock: know

what the fuck I'm not doing and doing.

Yeah, Save, 

Josiah: Save, the 

pleasantries. Yeah, so, I don't [01:00:00] know. give me the new brush. 

Tyler Rothrock: the, yeah. 

Josiah: Can you tell by all the blood on my shirt that I've not been flossing? 

That's the gingivitis. it It looks like a, it looks like a bib at a crab, 

Doug: like 

Josiah: red Lobster

Doug: but 

Tyler Rothrock: but it's just white in my blood.

Yeah, 

Josiah: She, she's just, she knows you haven't been flossing. I have another one Yeah. 

about a dentist where like, imagine dating a dentist, right? But you only see each other every 

six months. 

Tyler Rothrock: And you 

Josiah: you know how they always ask these questions when they have like the tools in your mouth? Yeah. And like to 

get even 

when you're, when you're you go on a date with a dentist and you finally get her to go out with you or to go down on you,

But she's sitting in a chair and she's a little resistant.

And then so you're like,

Doug: And 

Josiah: And you lower the chair for her Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then while she's down there, 

Tyler Rothrock: why can't she 

Doug: fight? 

Tyler Rothrock: fight off. You got her tied down or something? . Why can't 

Josiah: Yeah, just, 

I ever I ever I ever 

Tyler Rothrock: that. She's got

Josiah: I ever I ever tied with, uh 

Tyler Rothrock: I bought 

Josiah: That's that's why I bought the forty three [01:01:00] point seven yards of floss so I could tie up the 

fucking dentist 

Doug: Yeah, 

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: then while she's down there, I ask her all these questions.

You know, like, 

Hey, what's your favorite color? She's like, Oh, like, Oh, how do you like it?

Doug: yeah.

Tyler Rothrock: I'm yeah. I have this theory where you can't be 

Like 

Josiah: the, the dentist is the one of the few things.

One of the few jobs where you kind of just have to go along with what they like.

A conspiracy theory dentist would be 

the hardest.

Tyler Rothrock: Because 

Josiah: Because if you're in like the chair, and they're like, uh, you 

you floss, and also, 

Tyler Rothrock: did 

Josiah: you the actors in Sandy there were actors in Sandy Hook, and you're 

like, 

Doug: Oh 

Josiah: yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: uh, you 

know, women 

Josiah: Women should get paid as much as men. 

Oh, Jesus. like, uh. 

I I 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: I had a guy like that, he wanted to like take out all my teeth. I'm like, 

mm, no, 

Tyler Rothrock: it's, 

Josiah: it's a tough, cause like, first of all, you're like mouthful of cotton balls. And then you got to think, 

should I 

just listen to his ideas? 

Mouthful of cotton balls. What, 

what dentists are you going 

to?

Tyler Rothrock: get the, you don't get the cotton? Yeah. You 

get Cotton? No.

Doug: or gauze gauze, Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: Yeah. 

Josiah: Wow, I

don't get gauze. get

[01:02:00] What do you got? No, I don't. I clearly don't. a crack Shack 

Tyler Rothrock: bib. bib. You're they're not

bandaging 

your gums afterwards. I even have a water 

Josiah: pick like in the shower that I don't use. Yeah. 

Tyler Rothrock: Anyway. 

Josiah: All right. 


Dentist Anecdotes and Final Thoughts
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Josiah: Um, we need a button to finish the 

show. Um, well, I'll tell you this real quick. 

All right. this is the final thing about the Dentist. 

Tyler Rothrock: So 

Josiah: I go to this one dentist and been going there for years, but it was more in 

Tyler Rothrock: family 

dentist. 

Josiah: So 

that's how I started. That's how I found out. 

So, I go

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: the dental hygienist, uh, who's cleaning me.

Tyler Rothrock: she's, 

Doug: she's 

Josiah: already got like these gigantic boobs, 

Tyler Rothrock: Okay. 

Josiah: but was also pregnant. So they're getting bigger. right? So I'm leaning back in the chair.

and she's, I mean, I'm telling you, like,

a, a good, 

Tyler Rothrock: third 

Josiah: of

my face has a boob on it. Oh, nice. 

Tyler Rothrock: a, a, 

Josiah: a titty just sitting there. 

Where's this? dentist? while she's, doing her thing, right?

Yeah. And, and I, you know, what do I say? Like, 

and this is not a feature you've asked. This is not,

Doug: there's, 

Josiah: I'm pretty sure my health [01:03:00] insurance 

This is not a bug. It's a feature. Yeah, 

Um, this is out of pocket.

Doug: Uh, so, 

Tyler Rothrock: so.

Josiah: so 

that, 

That happens, right? And I was like, maybe because she's pregnant, you know, whatever.

So she had the baby, right? 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: I go back, same fucking thing. 

Tyler Rothrock: Titty 

Josiah: just,

Tyler Rothrock: you 

Josiah: know.

okay. And 

so then I go home and tell Lauren about it. All right. I was like, I said, she cleaned Lauren's teeth. I said, did you ever get your teeth done by

Doug: and, 

Josiah: And 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: swear to God, 

Tyler Rothrock: her 

Josiah: name is Lauren. Okay. And I was like, did you ever get your teeth described? She's like, describe Lauren. I 

was like, I was like the one with the big

and 

Tyler Rothrock: I 

Josiah: I was like, does she ever, 

Tyler Rothrock: and 

Josiah: and she 

was like, she was like, no,

Doug: here's 

Josiah: what Lauren does.

Lauren. 

Tyler Rothrock: not thinking 

Josiah: anything bad. Which Lauren are you talking about here? My wife, my wife, not thinking anything bad about it. 

Tyler Rothrock: Went to 

Josiah: to 

the dentist and joked with her about it.

Oh no, oh no. And 

she's like, do you know my husband said that, you know, like Oh God. would she do [01:04:00] that she went to the dentist. She's like, oh, I've seen Lauren. I was telling her we were laughing about it. I 

Tyler Rothrock: like, I

Josiah: was like, oh fuck. Like, you know, in the movie, like where the family, The face stays the same, but the background, the background.

Tyler Rothrock: yeah, yeah,

Josiah: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Doug: So I go in go in there the next time, the next time I go in and she literally was like, Hey dog, like that. And I was just like.

Hi! And I 

Josiah: I never went to her again. I don't even think she works anymore, but I never went to her again.

Tyler Rothrock: It 

Josiah: It 

was always

like, old 

lady, 

flat 

chested.

Tyler Rothrock: But 

Josiah: my dentist, uh, Dr. Owen, it was Craig Salerno 

Tyler Rothrock: the whole time. That's great. No, that's, 

Josiah: that's, 

great. that's, 

Doug: that's, all, 

Tyler Rothrock: that's, yeah. you 

Josiah: just got to make a noise when, When she's doing that. Like, bubba dee, bubba dee bubba dee bubba dee bubba dee bubba dee bubba dee. You need, You need, to pretend 

you're like Tyler's Middle Eastern 

neighbor. The next time. 

Tyler Rothrock: she goes, did you just pee in yourself?

No, 

I didn't.

Hey, are

Josiah: That's [01:05:00] it.

Tyler Rothrock: That's

Josiah: my, that's my, kamikaze 

pilot. Anyway, 

Tyler, thank you so much. 

Uh, anything You want to plug before you go? Uh, Uh, 

no.

You have a, oh, you, June 28th. 

Doug: June 28th. June

Josiah: can you, Is that a ticketed event? Can we buy tickets? 

Tyler Rothrock: Yes. 


Josiah: Anyone, anyone opening for you?

Tyler Rothrock: I don't 

know 

Josiah: Well, he'll tell you when he is outside barking for 

tickets 

Tyler Rothrock: I

Josiah: I mean,

Tyler Rothrock: planning it

Josiah: it being a canceled event. All right. June 28th, God, for Daniels, you can catch Tyler Rothrock live. Shit. Yeah

do 40 minutes. Yeah. March 11th. Doug is battling Dan Shelley. And 

this isn't gonna go live before tomorrow, but you can catch me tomorrow doing all my stupid fucking word play at Country Club Comedy.

Tyler Rothrock: Thank you 

Josiah: you very much for coming on the Jokes by Joe show. 

That's a wrap! 

Tyler Rothrock: yes. Nice. Fuck yeah.

Josiah: That was good. That was fun. Thanks for coming. So.

Tyler Rothrock: yeah,

Josiah: yeah, I want to know

Tyler Rothrock: here's,

Josiah: here's what I want to know. How did you how did you get booked on the show

Tyler Rothrock: This? Yeah. I don't know. I

Josiah: I think it was Joey [01:06:00] Tino.